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BROADWAY
MAVENS
Seven
top producers tell tales of their success. |
Interviews
by DIANA MEHL |
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Photo credit: Anita and Steve Shevette |
Chase Mishkin
Chase Mishkin is a Tony Award recipient and Emmy Award-winning
producer. She is represented on Broadway this season
by the musicals Little Women and Dirty Rotten
Scoundrels. Other notable productions include Match,
The Beauty Queen of Leenane, Dirty Blonde, Urban Cowboy
and the 2000 revival of A Moon for the Misbegotten.
How
did you become a producer?
While writing, directing and producing a one-act play for
my honors thesis, I learned that I loved producing. So I
started producing theatre. In Los Angeles, I fell in love
and married a great guy who didn't want me gone three months
at a time, so I took a hiatus. I came back to work about
ten years ago when my husband died and have done about 25
plays since then. I started in Los Angeles with a small
production and brought it to Broadway where it was a dismal
failure. Then I had a real success with Gross Indecency:
The Three Trials of Oscar Wilde.
It is such a male-dominated industry, yet you have
been so successful.
In a funny way I think I got started because my name is
Chase and everyone thought I was a guy. I would answer the
phone and people thought I was Mr. Chase Mishkin's assistant.
I would be invited to readings and I would go. No one ever
knew who I was. I would just sit there quietly. I was in
town a couple of years before everyone knew that Chase Mishkin
wasn't a guy. By then I already had a start, so they couldn't
keep me out.
How do you hold on to your vision for a project
when you have partners?
Well, you don't go into it without some ground rules – about
what you expect to contribute and your inclusion. After
ten years I'm not working with strangers. Most of the time
there are a couple of people with whom I've worked before
or with whom I have a business relationship and they know
what I'm good at. Once you've had a play that has had any
success, you get offered everything in town.
Everyone is looking for money and a little help. I realize
right away when people are just looking for money, and I
really don't go into those projects. I'm not an investor.
If I'm not producing and I don't really love the project,
I'm not going to do it.
What kind of input do you have?
I have a certain amount of intellectual input from the very
beginning. From time to time I will actually take on a writer
very early. I'll read something that needs development –
most of it needs to be rewritten – and I'll try to work
with that writer.
What attracts you to a project?
I have to have an emotional response, think that it works
intellectually and think that it's theatrical. I have to
feel that it has commercial possibilities because I can
have a loser now and then, but I can't have a lot of losers
in a row or I lose my investors. I've been really lucky
– I've had a lot of winners.
What
has attracted you to your two current projects?
I was just blown away by Dirty Rotten Scoundrels.
It's a funny show, a crowd pleaser and everyone is going
to have a great time.
Little Women is a sensitive piece with fabulous
music. It's touching without being maudlin, which is very
important. And there aren't a lot of shows on Broadway like
this to which you could take your 13-year-old.
What challenges do you face?
It's harder and harder to raise money. Every year a project
is more expensive. Union, advertising and promotion costs
continue to escalate. The first play I brought to town at
the Lyceum cost $600,000. The cheapest you could do a straight
play on Broadway nowadays is $1.2 million. Most come in
at $1.5, some at $2 million.
Which
production are you most proud of?
Whichever one I'm going to do next. From a production standpoint,
I don't think I've ever done a play that was badly produced.
I can't say I ever hated anything I did.
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Edwin W. Schloss
Edwin W. Schloss is a two-time Tony Award nominated
producer and a winner of three Outer Critics Circle Awards
for Wonderful Town, Kiss Me Kate and Elisabeth
Welch in Concert. His production credits include Full
Gallop, Buried Child, The World of Ruth Draper and June
Recital. He is a graduate of the North Carolina School
of the Arts and a recipient of its 2004 Giannini Society Award.
He is currently represented on Broadway by the Tony Award
winning revival of Wonderful Town and by the upcoming
revival of the musical Sweet Charity.
How did you become a producer?
I saw my first show, which was L'l Abner, in 1955,
and I just fell in love with the theatre. I never lost the
theatre-going habit. So, from the age of 5, I knew it was
something I wanted to pursue. I started out playwriting and
realized early on that I wasn't Neil Simon. I couldn't write
one play after another.
In 1974 I started investing in plays, the first being Gypsy
with Angela Lansbury. It was Broadway's first major revival
– up until then most were either at the New York State Theatre
or City Center for a limited run. Over time I realized that
although I liked investing in theatre, it was more interesting
to be involved on a day-to-day basis with a production. So
I started to invest more heavily and become what I call a
“show tuner.” My job is to go to the show every night and
take notes in previews and pass it on to the company manager.
You've invested in one-person shows and revivals.
What attracts you to a particular project?
I feel I have more control over one-person shows. When you
open a one-person show, you don't have to deal with finding
the right composer, lyricist and book writer. With Ruth
Draper, the material was brilliant. Patricia Norcia,
who performed the monologues, was superb. I felt we could
bring it in for a relatively small amount of money.
If I invest in a revival I tend to choose shows where the
movie was either never made or done poorly. If it was successful,
à la Sound of Music, it's questionable if people
will plunk down $100 for a ticket when they can see Julie
Andrews by renting a tape for $5. I'm more excited investing
in something people aren't as familiar with, such as Wonderful
Town.
The most exciting thing about being involved in the theatre
is seeing the project evolve. I think it's fascinating to
see the same show night after night – the changes, where the
laughs are – and to try to figure out what parts of the production
aren't working. Why does a line get a laugh one night and
not the next – is it the audience or the line reading?
What are the biggest challenges you face?
Keeping costs down. Also, if something is not working you
have to address it, but through the proper channels. You don't
go to the actor directly if you have a problem – it's all
done through the director.
Which production are you most proud of?
Wonderful
Town, because we've been running for a year, against
all odds. I really feel the show is better than ever. It's
timeless, beautifully constructed and a crowd pleaser. There
are very few musicals that are as joyous and as well written.
What advice would you give to someone considering
investing in a Broadway show?
Don't invest any more money than you can afford to lose. Have
fun with it. Also, know your competition – if you are going
to invest in a musical revival, know what other musical revivals
are coming in. Read as many scripts as possible and see what's
out there. Get Variety. Also get to know the producers
with whom you're investing to see whether you are on the same
wavelength.
What do you think is missing on Broadway?
Craftsmanship, inspiration and daring. There used to be more
passion in the arts; now things are more thrown together for
the sake of commerce. Theatre is missing the artistic impulse
that excites the public and the critics alike. I think the
public is thirsting for a comedy – people love to laugh. But,
frankly, an original comedy is hard to write. I would love
to see a new murder mystery, like Sleuth or Deathtrap.
Audiences love thrillers. They are somewhat critic-proof –
as long as they're done well they don't have to get great
reviews. I don't think we have enough political drama, but
perhaps there's enough in the headlines.
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Margo Lion
Margo
Lion is a four-time Tony Award-winning producer. Her productions
have garnered 20 Tony Awards, 30 Drama Desk Awards, eight
Obie Awards and one Pulitzer Prize. Her Broadway production
credits include: Hairspray; Caroline, or Change; Elaine
Stritch: At Liberty; The Crucible; Triumph of Love; Seven
Guitars; Angels in America: Millennium Approaches and
Perestroika; Jelly's Last Jam and I Hate
Hamlet.
Originally you were a teacher. How did you become
a producer?
Sarah Bernhardt was my nickname when I was a child, so I
guess I was destined to work in the theatre. But it was
joining my former husband when he was in the MFA Playwriting
program of the University of Iowa that provided the catalyst
for my decision to be a producer. I watched the process
of making theatre and decided I wanted to be part of that
process. I could offer enthusiasm and support, so I set
out to apprentice a New York producer. My cousin, choreographer/director
Martha Clarke, introduced me to Lyn Austin and The Music-Theatre
Group. It was with Lyn that I learned the ropes – everything
from sweeping dressing room floors to commissioning new
work.
You have worked on new plays, new musicals, revivals
and one-person shows. What attracts you to a project?
I gravitate to a new work that has some contemporary resonance.
Shows like Jelly's Last Jam and Angels in America
– even Hairspray – speak to ideas that the are
part of the cultural discussion. And sometimes I produce
a commercial run of an existing show like Elaine Stritch:
At Liberty or Caroline, or Change
because it is a unique expression of the power of theatre.
I've only been part of one revival, The Crucible,
because it was especially timely in 2001. And, of course,
I loved the idea of being on the team to bring an Arthur
Miller play to Broadway. Since I can't second-guess the
audience and know what will be a success, I work on projects
that I'd like to see on the stage.
How have you managed to be so successful in such
a male-dominated industry?
There are a number of women in the producing end of the
theatre. And if you do your job well enough, you're respected
for the work you do. This isn't to deny that it is sometimes
easier for men to raise money, given a more developed network
of contacts in the financial and corporate worlds.
What are some of the biggest challenges you have
had to face?
Raising money has definitely been the hardest part of the
job. Finding individuals as well as interested corporate
partners is always a challenge.
How much artistic input do you have in a production?
Most of my creative involvement in a production occurs at
the very beginning of the process. When I commission a show,
I choose the writers, director and choreographer. After
that, I see my role more as a third eye. It's important
to support your artistic team as well as to provide an objective
view of the material. In situations where a show is already
written or produced in a not-for-profit venue, my creative
input centers on casting choices and marketing and advertising
decisions.
You
are currently represented on Broadway by the Tony Award-winning
megahit Hairspray. What inspired you to adapt it for the
stage, and did you expect it to achieve such incredible
success?
I credit an extraordinary creative team for the success
of Hairspray. Along with that blessing, the show
has a simple strong story of a heroine who was determined
to make her dream come true despite the odds. And, of course,
the material provides a flood of opportunities for music
and dance.
Your newest project, The Wedding Singer, is another
musical adaptation of a film. What are the special challenges
in adapting a film to the stage, and what is it about this
story that you think will appeal to an audience?
When a film is adapted for the stage, the first step is
to reimagine the story for a new medium. The story
needs to be distilled to allow for musical numbers to carry
the narrative forward and to provide the emotional ballast
of the piece. The Wedding Singer has a central character
driven by the simple desire to find romance in the cynical
world of the eighties when money and fame seemed to trump
“love ever after.” Music and dance adapted from the sounds
and moves of the decade provide a multitude of opportunities
for musical numbers. And, finally, the show has wit and
style and a great big heart.
Hairspray is a huge financial success, but most
productions don't make back their original costs. What should
a potential investor consider before backing a show?
There are two questions an investor must ask before coming
onboard a Broadway show: Can I afford to lose the money
and do I love the project? If you can answer yes to both
those questions, win or lose you'll have a great time. Finally,
it's a good rule of thumb to make sure the show can recoup
in a year or a bit longer at 80-percent capacity.
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Benjamin
Mordecai
Benjamin
Mordecai is associate dean of the Yale School of Drama and
a four-time Tony Award-winning producer. He is currently
represented on Broadway by Brooklyn, the Musical.
Other notable productions include August Wilson's King
Hedley II, Jitney and Seven Guitars and David Henry
Hwang's Golden Child. He has received numerous awards,
including two NAACP Theatre Awards – the Olivier Award,
and the Robert Whitehead Award for “outstanding achievement
in commercial theatre producing.”
What attracts you to a project?
I think the decision to produce anything is a personal one.
You are going to live with the project for a year. You try
to do everything possible in support of it. So I feel that
you really have to be able to commit to the work and to
feel that it is worth your time. I have a long-standing
relationship with August Wilson, and I've produced work
by Lanford Wilson, David Henry Hwang and Anna Deveare Smith.
These are all artists whom I really admire. What tends to
be similar among the works I'm involved with is that they
are text-based. Take Brooklyn for example. I went
to see it in Denver. Usually I get involved with a project
from the very beginning, but it had already been mounted.
I just thought that the show was worthwhile and would have
a very substantial audience.
What
is the appeal of Brooklyn?
In terms of the story, it is a simple fairytale that operates
on several levels, all of which I think have an appeal.
It's about a girl looking for, finding, losing and getting
her father back. It's a version of boy meets girl, boy loses
girl, boy gets girl. Secondly, it's about the spirit of
artists who are struggling on the streets of New York, which
has a certain appeal. Add to that the wonderful music by
Mark Schoenfeld and Barri McPherson, truly extraordinary
performances and production concept by the artists and actors,
and Jeff Calhoun's direction. To be a part of helping to
introduce the wonderful young talent involved in the production
to New York audiences appealed to me. And I also thought
that the show would be commercially successful.
How much artistic input do you have in a production?
I am perhaps known more as a hands-on producer. But I think
a producer earns his or her way into the collaborative process
with the artist by being there a lot, watching, understanding
what the principal artists are trying to accomplish, and
then being able to be another pair of eyes and helping them
toward their goal. What doesn't work is when someone who
is not a part of the creative team comes in and says that
something doesn't work and it must be changed. I always
describe my own involvement by saying that I earned my place
at the table by watching the principal artist.
My involvement will vary by show. Usually I find myself
commenting on what I think is going on that is not supportive
of what the goals are. I try to encourage the artist to
take a look at those moments to find solutions that will
address them. Sometimes the artist will take a comment that
I make and come up with a different thought. I don't consider
myself the principal artist in the development, but I definitely
consider myself a collaborator.
What are your biggest challenges?
Raising money is always an issue. The Broadway stage is
a pretty unforgiving place. Generally speaking, it is very
hard to do creative work with so many people around you
and when the pressures are so intense. So I like to know
that the work is really developed prior to committing to
moving forward to Broadway. And that's a hard thing.
What advice would you give to a potential investor
in a Broadway show?
Investing in the theatre is obviously an extremely high-risk
venture. I always encourage new investors to identify a
producer that they feel confident about and to plan on investing
in several of that producer's shows. And to try not to pick
the winner. It's sort of like – this is an exaggeration
– diversification in capital markets or in a venture capital
fund. No one can tell you he's got a winner. There are some
that appear more likely than others. No matter what, it's
a crapshoot. If anybody did know how to pick winners everybody
would just be investing with them all the time. And that
just doesn't happen. Producers don't produce shows that
they don't believe have the potential to succeed.
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David Binder
David
Binder has spent the last decade bringing new artists and
audiences to the theatre. In addition to his Tony Award-winning,
record-breaking revival of Lorraine Hansberry's A Raisin
in the Sun, his theatre credits include John Cameron
Mitchell and Stephen Trask's rock-and-roll musical Hedwig
and the Angry Inch and the international high-flying
spectacle De La Guarda, which recently closed Off
Broadway after six and a half years and continues to play
around the world. In October 2004, Binder received the prestigious
Robert Whitehead Award for “outstanding achievement in commercial
theatre producing.”
How
did you become a producer?
After college I moved to NYC and started producing theatrical
events, benefits and awards shows, which gave me a chance
to learn about how to put a live event together. I did a
reading of The Normal Heart for one night with
Barbara Streisand, Stockard Channing, John Turturro and
Kevin Bacon. I did the Drama Desk Awards and events at Carnegie
Hall and Central Park. Anything I could get my hands on.
During this time I met John Cameron Mitchell who had this
show about a rock-and-roll transsexual who had a botched
sex change operation, and he asked me if I'd like to work
on it with him. I did, and that later became Hedwig
and the Angry Inch.
What attracts you to a project?
I have to do projects that I love and am passionate about.
The projects I've chosen have come in different forms. De
La Guarda is massive performance art that has no text.
Raisin in the Sun is a classic text that takes
place in one apartment. Hedwig is a rock-and-roll
musical that reinvents the musical theatre form.
Much of your work appeals to the nontraditional
theatre audience. Are you trying to attract a
particular theatregoer?
I'm not your traditional theatergoer and don't represent
that older, traditional theatre-going audience that we associate
with Broadway. I want to go to a nightclub where there are
interesting people who represent the spectrum of NYC – gay,
straight, multi-racial, the whole thing. That is my peer
group, with whom I live my life and who wants to see my
work. It is not a calculated thing that I want to reach
X or Y audience. It's that I want to present work that my
friends would want to see, that I can take my mother or
my boyfriend to. Ideally, the work can reach everybody.
How
much artistic input do you have?
It varies. I was involved with Hedwig from its inception
and through readings and presentations. I saw De La
Guarda abroad. It was finished and I brought it to
New York. I had the idea to do Raisin in the Sun,
then found Kenny Leon. Together we got designers and a cast.
I enjoy being part of the process of creating a project.
Could you elaborate on what it took to bring Raisin
in the Sun to Broadway?
It took five years and a lot of perseverance. From great
efforts come great things. But it wasn't just my effort
– it was the efforts of the people who work with me, Kenny
Leon and the casting director. Actors weren't interested
in being in it. The play had not been done since the original
production in 1959. Producers felt that you couldn't get
an African American audience to come to the theatre and
that the play was dated, which proved to be wrong.
How did you think of presenting it?
I happened to see a regional production of it. It was a
wonderful play that a whole generation had never seen.
You are also known for being very innovative in
your marketing.
When you have limited ad dollars and an audience that doesn't
read traditional press when choosing entertainment, you
have to reach out through nontraditional means – that can
be a street team or the radio. We did huge advertising on
the subways, street promotions, lots of Internet and electronic
outreach. With Raisin in the Sun it's not about
running an ad in the Sunday Times because that's not where
our audience is. And the show is the second highest grossing
play in the history of the Broadway commercial theatre.
We made a significant profit in a very short time – 15 weeks
of run – and a very significant return for our investors.
What advice would you give to a potential investor
in a Broadway show?
When you invest in the theatre, know that you might lose
your entire investment. Don't invest in a show because you
think you are going to make money. You should invest in
shows that you would really like to go see and enjoy. Then,
if the investment goes south, at least you will have the
pleasure of knowing that you invested in something that
you felt good about.
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Ruth Hendel
Ruth
Hendel is a four-time Tony Award nominee. Her Broadway production
credits include Caroline, or Change, A Raisin
in the Sun, Frozen, Golda's Balcony and Metamorphoses.
Hendel has also brought The Exonerated and Our
Lady of 121st Street to Off Broadway. This season she
will be represented on Broadway by ‘night, Mother
and Dirty Rotten Scoundrels.
How did you become a producer?
I had met producer Robyn Goodman, who invited me to a play
called Metamorphoses at the Second Stage Theatre.
This was right after September 11th and the show's modern
interpretation of Ovid's Greek and Roman myths had a
cathartic effect on me. Robyn was planning to transfer
Metamorphoses to Broadway. I have a strong background
in theatre and asked if I could get involved. All the producers
were gracious and I learned from the pros. I loved getting
to know the actors and creative team and, to top it all off,
Metamorphoses was a big hit!
You
have worked on musicals, plays and revivals. What attracts
you to a project?
Mainly I rely on my natural instincts and gut reaction. My
current production is Marsha Norman's ‘night, Mother.
The combination of Norman's finely crafted script, Michael
Mayer as director and our two outstanding actresses, Edie
Falco and Brenda Blethyn, made it easy for me to decide to
participate.
When I first saw Tony Kushner and Jeanine Tesori's Caroline,
or Change at the Public Theater, I was drawn to the characters
and moved by their story. I loved the music, the cast was
outstanding and its whimsy was uncharacteristic of a traditional
musical.
I co-produced the Off-Broadway play, The Exonerated,
based on the testimony of seven wrongfully accused death row
inmates. I have always been against the death penalty,
but this theatre piece raised my consciousness. It worked
dramatically and made a strong political statement, and I
wanted people to experience the issue from the exonerated
person's perspective.
A Raisin in the Sun was special because we brought
good, classic theatre to an audience that might not otherwise
have been exposed to it. A diverse audience saw and embraced
the play.
How much artistic input do you have?
The writers, directors, actors, composers and choreographers
– along with the scenic, costume, lighting and sound designers
– are the real artists in the theatre. I have a working knowledge
of the craft and art of the theatre and I understand the challenges
faced by the theatre artists. The producer is the dream weaver
who must have an overall artistic vision for the production
and be creative and clever when bringing the artistic collaborators
together.
What is the biggest challenge you face as a producer?
The rising costs of the productions. We try to be prudent
and keep within our budget, but it's difficult. The cost to
rent a theater is monumental and our advertising expenses
are enormous, so we have to be creative. We hope that the
show will sell itself. With good word of mouth our audiences
can be our best advertisement.
The escalating cost of producing theatre, especially
musicals, has led to the inclusion of more institutional investors.
How do you deal with so many partners?
I like having a lot of partners – everyone brings something
different to the table. Institutional investors can be an
asset to any production team. The best group is respectful
of one another's ideas and shares the goal of bringing an
outstanding production to audiences.
What are you bringing to Broadway this season?
Dirty Rotten Scoundrels is coming this spring. John
Lithgow, our star, and the rest of the cast are outrageously
funny. David Yazbek's clever music and lyrics appeal to the
intellect as well as to one's sense of humor.
What advice would you give to anyone considering investing
in a Broadway show?
Invest with someone in whom you have confidence and whom you
trust to make sound business decisions and whose artistic
taste you share or admire. Keep in mind that commercial producing
is risky. Not every show is a hit. That said, the New York
theatre community needs you. Besides commercial ventures,
I highly recommend getting involved with the nonprofit theatre
community.
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Daryl Roth
Daryl
Roth is a two-time Tony Award-winning producer. She has
produced five Pulitzer Prize-winning plays: Proof
by David Auburn, Wit by Margaret Edson, How
I Learned to Drive by Paula Vogel, Three Tall Women
by Edward Albee and Anna in the Tropics by Nilo
Cruz. This season she is bringing a revival of Edward Albee's
Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? to Broadway. Among
her proudest accomplishments is the creation of the Daryl
Roth Creative Spirit Award, which is dedicated to nurturing
and supporting theatre artists.
How did you become a producer?
About 17 years ago, I was on the City Center board and got
to know Richard Maltby, who was a committee resident professional.
He invited me to a club where they were singing songs that
he and David Shire had written. I loved the songs and asked
Richard if he'd let me take them and try to figure out what
might make an interesting theatrical evening. He agreed
and the project became Closer Than Ever, the first
show I produced. After playing it in Williamstown, I brought
it to the Cherry Lane Theatre and it ran for nine months.
It was a small project, so I could get involved in every
aspect. I was totally devoted, loved it and just felt it
was the right thing. I think a lot had to do with the songs,
which were about life chapters, and I was at the point in
my life where I was open to what that next opportunity might
be.
You are known as a champion of original and thought-provoking
work. What attracts you to a project?
I'm very interested in plays that have strong characters
or that give a new way of looking at things or understanding
a community. I like material that makes me feel intimate
with the characters. How I Learned to Drive is
a very intimate story with a bigger issue at hand. Wit is
a character-driven piece with a story that really radiates
many other issues. The work that I look for is usually a
personal story that has a very wide and universal appeal
and challenges me emotionally and intellectually.
What are some of the greatest challenges you face
as a producer?
The biggest challenge is finding the capitalization of the
project. And the second biggest is bringing in the audiences.
I guess having a successful track record helps. Tenacity
helps.
How much artistic input do you have?
I have a lot of artistic input because that's the joy of
it for me. There are different levels of opportunity though.
Caroline, or Change was an already existing project.
Usually I am more involved from the beginning, starting
with choosing the play, then getting involved with the writer,
then choosing the director and artistic team. That's what
I prefer. Mambo Kings, a new project, is from square
one, so every decision is collaborative. I would never overstep
my bounds but the input, digestion of facts and conversations
that happen before decision-making is where I like to have
input. People can take it or leave it, but at least they've
got the opinion of someone who cares greatly about the project
and, in many cases, has hired them. By hiring a creative
team you are bringing in people whom you trust in terms
of their judgment and taste. That act of faith is the first
collaboration. Dialogue is the key.
Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? is your fifth Albee
play – what about his work appeals to you?
He is one of our greatest playwrights. What is particularly
special is that his work is intensely personal but at the
same time very universal. He is able to talk about human
issues in a way that is very unique. It's his own voice,
but he gets to the core in a way that is searing. He looks
deep into the face of dysfunction. He seems to find truth,
then revelation. He has this clarity of language. There
is always rhythm in his words, almost like music.
You are co-producing The Mambo Kings with your son.
Can you talk about that experience?
We have a shared love of theatre and we work well together
because we are on the same wavelength. Our skills are very
different so we complement each other. Jordan is very detail-oriented,
very good at the business end, the contracts, dealing with
people. I am probably stronger in the grand scheme of things,
in the visual. So far it's been a very nice weaving together
of our skills.
The show will open officially in August. The thing that
I love about Mambo Kings is it's really the American
dream. Two brothers come from Cuba to find their way in
the world of music. It was first a Pulitzer Prize-winning
book, then a movie. The musical is a combination of the
best of both.
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